I get so excited all the time with her, cause I know she was a slut and Im proud of being a slut too. idk how to both handle my parents and be safe around them. I understand your position, but I do not agree that it is the best approach. Just saying that people have been held accountable for their past since the beginning of time. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are both part of The Student Room Group. If you cant provide a woman with certain things you will always leave the possibility of that relationship going in the wrong direction. A lot of men would have a problem respecting and trusting a woman that is currently on or has been on the hoe stroll as you call it. So there is a responsibility on both ends. So again, my opinion is that putting so much weight on the actual number is a mistake. My girlfriend of 8 months told me in the beginning of the relationship she had only been with 2 other men which were her past relationships. And that is with all else being equal. Or control and/or reduce the rejection that women are going to receive ? Both come back to screw men. insert kylo ren meme here. Get out of the relationship, because you want You havent listed any statistics relevant to the discussion. No I dont want to do it again. It wasnt until recently I started putting together clues that she had been with more. rates, confused male and female roles, teen pregnancy and unwed mother figures The double standard thing is something that a lot of people ignore because I guess they feel as if, women should behave in such manner that is acceptable to society! But most men with self-esteem, and who arent betas wont stoop so low to marry and have children with a slut. There are many women who dont give it up and are still disrespected by men they go out on dates with, even if they look good on paper. Youtube. Itz never been ok for them. No track record of long-term relationships, combined with promiscuous behaviour, is always a bad sign, regardless of philosophy. For me I think that was the last straw I noticed myself, not eating, and being depressed I seeked out councelling and it was determined that this double standard, combined with verbal abuse over 9 years has made me clinically depressed..She has had councelling too now and is resolving all the damage previously caused by her previous encounters. Error message when applying for student finance, Official Oxford 2023 Postgraduate Applicants Thread, Official LSE Undergraduate Applicants thread 2023, Official Dental Hygiene and Therapy (Oral Health Science) 2023 Entry Thread, Official UNIVERSITY of BATH 2023 entry thread. This is still me I believe having that talk will do a lot of good. Hell, 2 girls ASKED HIM for a 3some. nasty divorce, drug use stemming from the perils of a upper middle class I think we should always evaluate the individual for who they are right now. Its like buying a car with 1,000,000 miles on the odometer lol!!! Well written! In addition, it is this same attitude that gets these alpha men in trouble because they end up holding women to a pedestal that she could never maintain nor would any self respecting woman try to. What I am saying is I dont feel it is best to allow that to overshadow everything else that is great about this woman and the fact that you believe she is best from you (aside from a possible past you arent too happy about). . Dont hold a value for the women youre looking for that you dont practice yourself. Im very flattered, but not creeped out enough yet to worry about it. Rich, sexual prowess and even sexual organ size Not horrible.. A year is a long time. Men have conqiustadorian aditudes about many things including women. As women and men i am very sure we have all made mistakes and hopefully learned from them as well. Reply 122. Men should realize that a low number of partners First, ever since our common ancestors walked out of West She told me that she thought sleeping around was dangerous and that she wanted to wait until marriage. Also as I stated, women know that regardless of this article most men will judge them. Whats the point of man or woman sleeping with so many partners??? Hmm? So when a man does commit, he wanted to ensure that the woman he was investing his time and resources in was bearing his own children so that his genes were the ones being passed on and not other other mans child. I respected her view so much. As Oprah said (excuse me if I misquote) If you know better, do better. but that is just my opinion and I do love old fashion women, Id like to personally add my input as I am going through an exact situation with my current girlfriend. We can do better. Men lie, because it increases theirs. Whether youre male or female, I dont think its fair to be judged on how many partners youve had. And the truth is most men wont like it. I say how many men she has slept with should not matter. Past promiscuity is not what causes a marriage to fail in my opinion. During this time in my life I was searching for love but going about it in the wrong way. Normally the good man doesnt have half the number of the slut girl. I actually thought it was clever. Not every girl will be good for you, but if you can get the one that's right for you, your marriage life is going to be great. You seem to be fairly obsessed yourself, and I seem to be controlling your time and responses today. have and wield. She came with a lot of baggage, extremely insecure and pushed a double standard into our relationship. Either way u go science or religion pretty much states the same thing. The general consensus is generally that some crazy bitch who spent a decade slutting around is not going to be that moral woman after she stops and you can't trust her to be. Ladies, as a Man with successful experience, KEEP THOSE LEGS CLOSED until you find the right Man. No way either of us could get bored and look elsewhere!! many people feel and learn otherwise. Only 2 of them were and the other 13 just encounters. For example, if your first sexual experience is a violent one, pain could cause you to become numb sexually and emotionally. There really is no advice. He laid His life down for you and for me that we would not have to be separated from him because of our sinful ways and mind sets. before automatically being a jerk and walking away. Some of them are alright but it seems like some sleazy fucking dudes thrown into the mix. He look at them both. I do not like the double standard but I cannot deny that it exists. Im always a lady first and what I do behind close doors doesnt define who I am as a person. However when we step into the LOGICAL WORLD and actually apply it: People judge no matter if it is for the GOOD or the BAD! The fact remains that the women with the lowest divorce rate in our liberal Western culture (not an alien culture or religion) are those who are more educated, higher income earners and marry later. It is to say that not all women who have once walked that path are still the same person today. /Especially/ when choosing a mate. I would still probably see a similar reaction to my post on both of those subreddits so I have no interest in reading more on that perspective which is why I'm here hoping for more varied discussion. I deserve better, and so would my children. Take care. I would expect any woman to agree. I have a past love interest who you can say is the one I regret letting go in my life the most. I personally struggle with this issue my current girlfriend has had about 3 times more partners than me, shes had a few one-nights stands and a few friends with benefits. Sex isnt an act that comes with an inherent morality- the ethical implications of sex all depend on the context. Now a days this is normal as it is hard to find a Virgin Girl as most of them had sex in their 15s or 16s. Ladies need to just respect themselves overall. That she should One called her a hoe. Tighter in actuality isnt always better. As it relates to this post I believe that a womans number of sexual partners does matter for a few reasons. FACEBOOK is a trademark of FaceBook INC. Stephan Speaks | All Rights Reserved 2020. This site is not a part of the FaceBook website or FaceBook INC. Additionally, this site is NOT endorsed by FaceBook in ANY WAY. When done, breath deeply,. (if its true). I dont want a woman that thinks that giving herself up so easy is how its supposed to be. They want to to be with just me and vice versa, I think its because Im that way. She is 20 years old and lost her virginity at 18 to the first relationship. Press J to jump to the feed. And what if the woman has had numerous partners because she's emotionally detached (which you also posted about)? You threw out the number 50, but in this topic a high number is relative. Definitely dated and slept with two different things. It refers to a woman . Men and women are not the same and should not be judged the same. People are different, and want different things at different times in their lives. What I want to encourage you to do is to understand what is done is done. your lover, and if people on the market for dating were products, your value People shouldnt be so quick to judge others. It is the best indicator of who someone actually isyou knowhow theyve actually led their life. So if you have a woman who has X amount of partners but have truly addressed her issues then I do not believe she will have a higher rate of divorce over the woman who has only had one partner but a slew of issues she has not properly addressed. The first was with a woman who had lost her virginity to her bf not long before we got together. But what about men? Basically, many women today want to be able to act like a whore while they are younger, and still settle down with a man in a stable marriage once they get their promiscuity out of their systems. lol but seriously men and women should be viewed the same. Evaluate that person for who they are now, not who they were previously. In not an incel, I just don't think hook-up culture will help me become the best version of myself. I completely understand where you are coming from and I do believe in discussing a persons past. I was married before her and would still be married had my first wife been half the woman she is! If you say you do, then answer this: half the women you are sleeping with *are* sleeping around, and guess what? Ahh, so nice to hear that youve learned how to Google. 2,105 posts. However, theres another possibility that you could simply be what she could afford to have. reading this I can see that you only wrote this to make yourself believe that its OK you slept with a 100 guys . Its not about allowing women to act similar to men, but simply to not judge women who may have had a promiscuous past. If a guy was to meet me he would never guess my number is so high because its all about how I carry myself. Neighbor, as long as you carry that deeply engrained mindset you will have nothing but uphill battles in all of your personal romantic relationships. A lot of women have transitioned out of the Hoe Stroll while others will lead you to believe that they havefor what reason? I recommend a highly-qualified psychiatrist. B) Twenty sex partners, had sex a total of 100 times. Please! One can only act so long before the truth comes out. You make an excellent point and I wanted to leave the door open to a separate post that would address the trust issue as well as the why she has slept with so many men. Never trust someone who doesnt change within those 10 years. If they say they dont feel secure in the relationship, If you couldnt deal with your problems then, how is somebody else suppose to trust you with that later? whether or not she has a(n) std(s)) is very important concerning the number of partners that she's had but if a woman tells a man that she's slept with 3 men and neglects to add the 0 at the end of that, she's being dishonest and that violates the principle of another post that you made (4 keys to starting and maintaining a successful relationship) previously. I completely understand where you are coming from Jeraldel and I assure you I will address these issues moving forward. Ironic that you accuse someone else of being too lazy to link you to a study that you can just look up yourself, but didnt, because you werewelltoo lazy. Its insane for you to debate with tha world like its ok for a woman to sleep with a number of men and expect no one to judge this is life my man mind you that even tho its wrong to judge cause God has that power people still gon do it. I disagree that promiscuity is what has caused the highest divorce rate America has ever seen. However, all else being equal, women with more sexual partners are more likely to undergo a failed marriage. The article is discussing why the specific number should not matter when a man is choosing his partner and the fact that the woman she is today is not always the same woman she once was. Sure, they can lie but I have always found the real number later and left them. However, a guy can be just as much of a slut as a gal. Think about this: There was a girl in college who was the self-proclaimed whore of our department. So ..does it have something to do with how many men u have slept with??? That is all we need to continue our happy lives. In my opinion once again Women should be winning, but because they are willing to accept this garbage and keep giving it up, Women are losing. I do know that there are some who, respectfully, think otherwise. You are right about the emotional attachment. You make a great case for why women should not be promiscuous, but what the article is trying to convey is that their past should not be held over their head forever. Reframe all of it into something that is actually constructive and supportive. Shadow Hunter-December 12, 2022. I agree that at the core, this issue stems from control. Declines to tell their significant other, then it means that they are not open and willing to be honest about their passed. Some religions cut off womens sensitive parts so that she will NOT experience pleasure. Cut it out and replace it with positive experiences. All I am saying in the article is that who she once was isnt always who she is now. I dont see how this article will have women single and lonely. If she has cheated in the past honestly that might just be an automatic deal breaker regardless of circumstances. I would rather be morally responsible than put another person through the consequences of my decisions. We block love sometimes for all the wrong reasons, and how many men she has previously slept with should never be one of them. This is the difference between you and some other posters. People are different and can change! Or do we grow up and understand that who someone was in their past is not always who they are in the present. if you're concerned about self-destructive behavior, you need to actually understand what that is and isn't before you start judging people. Eh. And the high quality woman (in terms of youth, health, and fecundity) also historically wanted a man who was generous and would provide her and her offspring with resources and security. My personally opinion, 10 partners in a lifetime for men and women should be enough. Men are sure as hell trying to do it now! By his personality it doesn seem that he is a virgin either. Some males like feeling dominated. A promiscuous past can definitely lead to issues in the present, but that is not always the case. Fourth, I work globally. Imagine for a moment that the United States was an egalitarian society. The only position here is dont let the past stop you from receiving and embracing your blessings. 0. cultures, from Africa, to the Middle East, to Southwest Asia, how men and women The person asking or the person who has the power to say yes or no ? 21. life. This isnt about telling women it is good or ok to have a lot of sex partners. 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