beauders saidDidn't he claim he slept through a blowjob on a train?No, "the big city." Previously sponsored memorials or famous memorials will not have this option. Sorry, $300-$500 range in today's money Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. Younger dudes allowing older dudes, especially older dudes with money, blow them is incredibly common. Howeverhe had the tendency (like many other people) to break away from the party/group and leave/go home/fall asleep in a closet, etcwhen he was WAY LOADED.We broke into 3 groups and, began to search for him in the co-op (nope) the nearby park, pub, benches (nope) and, we (were pretty loaded and loud) asked if we could get a few of the locals to accompany us as we ventured into the areas we were told to avoid at all costsWellI just happened to be in the search party group that eventually found Justinpassed out hard, in a narrow alley. A side note for genealogy geeks like me. Lancaster's William Garretson, who is quoted in the story, died in 2016. Pete - Funny and succinct. Personally I thought she was most effective low in the mix. Just ask one. Sherwin-Williams bought them out in 1982. I am in possession of what purports to be a transcript of an interview with Mr. Garretson at 4:25 pm, on August 10th, 1969, where this witness was asked about the events that took place on August 8th and 9th. Family and friends are welcome to leave their condolences on this . "My husband, I really don't think anybody in the area here, never gave him a chance of day," Linda Derr, Garretson's ex-wife said. Billy is busted for lying right here and right now. See more. ". The attempt fails. You might think Billy was from the sticks and in a way you're right but his hometown of Lancaster, Ohio, is also basically becoming a distant burb of the state capital these days. Namely: if it took only a few days of hitchhiking to reach LA, and if he took the job at Cielo--as he said--in March 1969, where did Bill live for nearly five months prior to Cielo? Also none of these people after their run in Manson's world ever served in Vietnam---Poston, Watkins, Garrettson, etc. Good point. Like so many of the souls trapped within this dark miasma, you never had a chance. Billy died in 2016. David Kessler's top 4 tips for dealing with holiday grief. Randy Groff, Lancaster City Council member, knew Garretson as far back as elementary school. I hope you liked my Irish Rover joke in my previous post. But only one resident can say he actually was there. based on information from your browser. Well no, lol. When questioned, Garretson said he was unaware of the murders until police burst into his bedroom and led him to the bloody bodies of Frokowski and Abigail Folger, lying on the lawn, and Steven Parent, slumped over the wheel of his car. Back in Lancaster, residents were just learning about the murders in California -- and the local man who was being questioned for them. There's no man hanging around to give Billy his name and then abandon him. William was, scarily, at home during the night of the murders. Garretson was released from jail two days later. to the late William and Vena Garret son. How were people drinking jars of shine and smacking kids up around her? The Associated Press contributed to this article. For classmates and the ex-wife of William Garretson, a Lancaster native. Actually we (or Bill at least) was in a place called the 1960s', where hitch-hiking was regarded as a pretty normal way to get around for many young people. starviego said:Torque said"At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection" Now my conspiracy radar has been set off. Some basic help and starters when you have to write a tribute to someone you love. He was given a polygraph examination on August 10, 1969, and that had effectively eliminated him as a suspect. Perhaps they were afraid they may have had to take care of Rudi's dogs if Bill wound up in jail.I have attempted to contact one girl that Bill was reported to have known in LA. They're not a map to follow, but simply a description of what people commonly feel. He said he has nothing to say about the fact that this week marks the 40th anniversary of the killings. Remove advertising from a memorial by sponsoring it for just $5. I'm scared of everything. Billy was a prime draft candidate until he married and became a father. Impromptu writing workshops also routinely take place if you're the typing sort and wish to post. He lived on the property, but somehow escaped the murderers. Garretson has since been interviewed for documentaries on the murder that have aired on The History Channel and E! Books, interviews, transcripts, they're all out there. Kids from Lancaster are tough. You can customize the cemeteries you volunteer for by selecting or deselecting below. Sherman was tough. The following day, a second article ran informing residents that Garretson had been released from police custody. Gimme an effin break. Thank you for fulfilling this photo request. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Billy tells Bugliosi in court that he moved out of Cielo Dr. on August 9th. Both seem like he's embellishing. West Des Moines - Nancy A. Garretson died on August 31, 2021 at Morningstar Senior Living in West Des Moines, Iowa. This is not an unusual phenomena at all. Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. Sex is sex imo. William Arnold Garretson was born on October 25, 1942 and passed away on April 12, 2019 You may leave a message for the family by clicking here. The $27 they robbed from a man, always reported at $35 in the Mansonverse, was truly a death sentence for Luther. Along with so many other individuals in this story, it helps me to better understand the environment in which these people found themselves.Brownrice, agreed. This browser does not support getting your location. Sharon Tate, eight-and-a-half months pregnant, had been stabbed repeatedly and was curled in a fetal position as if to protect her unborn son. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) Murders. And Garretson does most of the talking. Derr described her ex-husband, who died in 2016, as a very good, loving man, and cited those qualities as the reason she married him. Baltimore. Like that awful Hillbilly Elegy traitor author to the Scots-Irish, the reincarnate Flavius Josephus of the hollers, I now believe Charlie exploited and caricature'd our massive, migratory blob for his own benefit every time he opened his mouth about us. Just that her birth mom was a prostitute and her alleged dad was from "across the river". I still have yet to hear anything that even nudges me towards a belief that LE was found wanting, so when objections are levelled in that direction, even hints of it, I'll sometimes just point out what I can see as LE's logic in the moves they made.But that's just one side of the equation.starviego said:And how did he acquire a new car at all?Now that's a good question.But in the grand scheme of things, hardly of earth shaking importance.Is it cynical to ponder why on earth it's of any relevance what William Garretson was doing for some months before he found himself the only breathing individual in the midst of a savage slaughter ?And does it matter where he went when he was released from jail ? Funeral arrangement under the care ofRose & Quesenberry Funeral. and he said, 'shut up, I'll show you,' " Garretson recalls. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of William Garretson (199860689)? Even more heartbreaking was the fact that Sharon was eight-and-a-half months pregnant with her first child at the time she was killed. There is no photo or video of William A. Garretson.Be the first to share a memory to pay tribute. In the 21st century, it's not just urns and gravestones anymore. It's not a stretch to wonder if things he experienced during that period might help us better understand the goings on at Cielo prior to the murders. He was released a few days later. His room and board was covered as well. Focusing on Garretson's immediate past, as one who survived the murders without a physical scratch, was part of that game and therefore, Bugliosi and Stovitz were of a mind to shut down quickly any loopholes.They also had their ammunition to counter the defence deflection; what Astrocreep refers to as "death by a thousand cuts." Because of two minutes in a staff lavatory. Just a loving mama safely holding her tiny baby like she did back when their lives had hope. What did he do, and how did he support himself? Edit a memorial you manage or suggest changes to the memorial manager. GARRETSON, 58 PLANT CITY - William Thane Garretson, 58, entered into eternal rest on September 25, 2019. There are no volunteers for this cemetery. Thought provoking comments today, sir. Born August 24, 1949 Died August 16, 2016 (66) Add to list Photos Credits Edit IMDbPro Archive Footage Previous 2 Helter Skelter: An American Myth Self - Caretaker (archive footage) TV Mini Series 2020 2 episodes Very Scary People He was held for questioning over the weekend and released after police said there was just no evidence against him. He was TOTALLY oblivious to any of it.We actually had to "barter" (in the strangest manner ever) for his return. A little while later, the woman of the house calls my friend on his personal phone and demands he fire the driver or they're done doing business together. Linda Lou Derr died at the end of July 2020. Acacia Memorial Park & Funeral Home. Possibly his tenth depending on how you feel about poor Mr. Stubbs. I haven't got a clue about WHERE this dialogue was (apologies, stabby Tex pain and, heaps of codeine) but, perhaps Grim, Starviego, Whut, Patty, or, SOMEONE else can remember and, give us a link.Love your posts GW. Tecumseh was tough but had an insane brother. His phone even. According to our Database, He has no children. Derr, however, saw Manson in a different light, particularly noting his childhood and how that affected his adult life. Quick story. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. William T. Liester, 78, of Battle Lake, MN died on Sunday, January 8, 2023, at Grand Arbor in Alexandria, MN. But Garretson said he learned nothing of the murders until the following day when police officers showed up at the clubhouse. Verify and try again. And check out Billy's answer to the last question. Bill was born on May 9, 1944, in Garretson, South Dakota, the son of James and Gertrude (DeClerk) Liester. 7 Nov 2021Sunday If anyone is on West Coast time or stays up later in other time zones and wants to hang out tonight, I'm a guest host on The Paulcast tonight at 730 pm PST. In an Aug. 11, 1969, article, Garretson's mother told Eagle-Gazette staff she refused to believe her son committed the horrendous crime, citing that her son had only ever stolen some candy from a store as a child, but that all children do that. His buddy Darrell, home from Vietnam, visited but Garretson kicked him out when he saw Darrell take bottles of champagne during one of the Polanskis house parties that summer. The importance of saying "I love you" during COVID-19, Effective ways of dealing with the grieving process, Solutions to show your sympathy safely during the Covid-19 pandemic. There was an error deleting this problem. Thanks for your help! We were traveling with another band that supported us for the entire tour. See more. I do but didn't until I looked into his story. First, I found her phone number from 2002 on Ancestry. Magic lives in them. Like a lot of his stories, I discovered that Charlie's tales of his upbringing don't always closely match up with the historical record. Lancaster is famous for General William Tecumseh Sherman. Even with the stereo on in the guesthouse, it is extraordinary that Bill did not hear this. Btw, Washington Courthouse is pronounced, you guessed it, Warshington Courthouse. I tried to find her but was unsuccessful. Why I shouldn't eat this or that, what about on Saturday though, basic stuff. Prosecution witness William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. Killers, germs, conversations. Glenn Close as Mamaw. I wanted to do a post on this, but hopefully we can open up a discussion (or rediscussion) on this and the other points here on G&W's post. I never will. . Torque said it may cause one to wonder why Bill set out for California with only $1.85 in his pocket if he sold the Camaro. To me, that's a coward.". Jealousy probably. A unique and lasting tribute for a loved one. Then counter every possible defence angle, whether it be drugs, mental illness, coercion, alibi etc. And why would he marry three women throughout the course of his life and have children with two if he was gay? starviego said:Interestingly, this is consistent with others who heard yelling/gunshots after 1amSo who, after 1am, heard dogs barking other than Emmett Steele {and don't forget, they were his own dogs !} A carving fork was protruding from Leno LaBiancas stomach, and the word WAR was cut in his flesh. WILLIAM THANE GARRETSON, 58 PLANT CITY - William Thane Garretson, 58, entered into eternal rest on September 25, 2019. "They never really was taught or loved, so no, I do not want to hate. Late night parties did occur at the main house so it is entirely possible that Garretson did not fully understand what danger was occurring that night. Brother Luther at this time is still in prison for being half of the world's worst criminal duo ever with Kathleen. Torque said "At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection"Now my conspiracy radar has been set off. Charles Manson and Watson had been on that property prior. Unless you are experienced as an estate executor, you probably should hire an attorney. However, it was the same type of scream a woman would scream as if she were being thrown in the pool. We are sad to announce that on July 13, 2022, at the age of 79, William A. Garretson in Raleigh, West Virginia passed away. A killer had carved the word "WAR" on Leno La Bianca's body. Both his aunt Glenna and her husband Bill got a college education during the Depression. !Completely grossed out we finally bartered Justin's sad sack ass for 6 smokes! I noticed this at the same time I was reading Hillbilly Elegy recently. Your new password must contain one or more uppercase and lowercase letters, and one or more numbers or special characters. He recalls a lot of "strange things" going on that night. Save to an Ancestry Tree, a virtual cemetery, your clipboard for pasting or Print. Los Angeles, Aug. 16 - William E. Garretson, the only person found alive after the massacre at actress Sharon Tate's Benedict Canyon estate, yesterday described the murder scene as "horrible," but could shed no light on the five slayings. Someone from a Youtube channel called and asked Billy who he thought would win the Super Bowl one year and then uploaded his answer to the channel for some reason. Or maybe employers take nighttime poolside photos of their employees and I've just had shitty jobs. I didn't know other drugstores existed for the first twelve years of my life. But spend a couple of minutes in Lancaster and you'll be like oh yeah okay I totally see it now. Grim - I think you have an eidetic memory, yes? Or computer by now. William Garretson was the caretaker for the 10050 Cielo Drive House that Sharon and Roman were renting. Billy died in 2016. After that, Google took me to her obituary. I was more of a cider/spirits guy and, I was never, ever so thoroughly embarrassed drinking as I was on this tour and I was almost always the one who could outdrink pretty much anyonenot this tour and, especially NOT ON THIS DAY!After a few hours of ridiculously stupid drinking we realized that we were missing a guitarist. William and Linda divorced after five years of marriage, but she spoke highly about her ex in an interview after Charles Manson died. I must stress that these colleagues were all pretty much bottomless beer drinking pits. He was the homosexual that Charles mentioned in a interview that sold him drugs and pornography on several occasions. He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon, at the time of Sharon Tate's murder by Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, and Patricia Krenwinkel.. 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