Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. Best 380 Ive ever had. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. It therefore must perform when called upon. I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. (dead serious) took it right back to the store. The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. And than some. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. Because they werent reliable? I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. The wisdom of the crowd phenomenon? Are you kidding me? (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. Yes it did. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. In a fight you wont notice it. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. My SCCY runs like a champ. I limited this list to the bottom six guns to reduce room for disagreement and keep it simple. And probably never fired one. How is it possibly at the top of the list? The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. I own a hp380. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. The LCP isnt that bad. Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. All I know is my 1st CPX-2 had to be sent in for service 30 minutes after I got it home. No problem with the SCCY at all. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. I like the concept at least. My shooting buddy has an LCP. Great little pistol. I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. Oh shit! This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. I actually have the cm9 and cw380 both and never an issue with either one. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . Have you put more than a box through it? Too small, too weak, too much plastic. 6. And we have to like it enough to carry it. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. How do they perform? My other gun is a Beretta PX4. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. based on what your stupid opinion? Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. I still have the same problem. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. One now has over 4,000 rounds of flawless ammo down range the other now over 1500 and have never broken a firing pin. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. The Picos have a huge fan base. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. Literally, it is.) AMEN . YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. Wouldnt take much time for an employee or contractor of one of these manufacturers to buff up the ratings, or down rate a competitor. Lol, I think he is a troll with other guns as well. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. To each his own . Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. Guess what? The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. Broke the ejector. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? No issues to complain about. Bodyguard were well rated. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. Theyve reportedly improved it in newer model LCPs. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. You must not even be able to read. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Also LCP. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. I also Have the Kahr CW380 nice guy but finicky on ammo. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. Take down the Pico. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. I recommend them to people all the time, but I do caution that, as is to be expected with a DAO, the trigger is long. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. Any kind of ammo. Anyway, all just my opinion here. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. It is my bicycle gun. I shoot pocket guns all the time. Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. No aluminum. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. . Remarkable build quality. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. Ive no complaints. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. George have you tried a different ammo brand? I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? No problems when used within its limits. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. Totally precision stainless steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, best sights in class, best take down in class, One of the most Mild mannered shooting guns made for that size. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. The thing stinks. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. Solid with FMJ round nose once broken in, will NOT feed hollow points until after a trip back to the factory. Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? Booth #72617 Cabot Guns It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. Buy Your Tickets Today! Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Glock 42 4. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. (3) Often in the comment sections of user reviews online, you see stuff being dinged a star or two from superfluous stuff. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Trash. Extremely Mild, Plus P rated, Modular design, mags that look like Custom 1911 stainless steel. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. I have a SCCY too. Id have to disagree with the cpx2s place on the list even though the company had growing pains. I dont know if I should believe anything guns3x has to say, he is clearly insane. I chose. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Both nice guns, the Pico is the clear winner. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. what a waste of time. Ill definitely be checking it out. We saw your review and write up. Accurate for cheap junk. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. Maybe so few were sold they didnt make the list. Shoot to make the thug dead. Oh not to mention Sccy has great They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Or had a bad exp. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. I normally enjoy Truth about guns. WebBest 9mm Concealed Carry (CCW) Pistol - SIG Sauer P365. So special, they ride the short bus. 8===D~. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. None. I love the Pico. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. Its tight, even well after break-in. Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Go to Genitron and compare.And very little muzzle flip. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). His post show that he is just posting without knowledge of the firearms. I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. Well, youre in luck, because your fellow Americans have voted, and for some pocket guns, the results arent pretty . For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. Must be the best gun ever. These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? None. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. No I dont own one I own two. Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. Yep and they give AKs a bad name with how terrible theirs are. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. Do you really know anything about pocket guns? Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. I wouldnt bother to get that info from this site. You have entered an incorrect email address! Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. From what I have heard the folks at SCCY provide great customer service. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Every trigger Ive ever pulled is better than the LCP. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. Trigger sucked. I have two of the Picos. I also have the Kahr. So there. Just keep shooting your pistol. You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. Any failure rates? After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. M&P Shield EZ .380 6. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. Note to self, Get to the range! Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. CPX 2. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. You really missed this one. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. It would likely be more meaningful. I challange anyone to break down the Pico and compare all parts to any of the Aluminum Chassis Pocket guns. If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. The double 1911 also has ratings. It seems like the all metal euro pistols of yester-year beat the new models in spades. He didnt even require them to be positive. What a joke. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? 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