He is married to Lynne Hybels since 1974. You be the Mugu; I be the Master! Is lynne hybels still married to bill The new thing i learned from nancy ortberg's post was that bill has personally. Love That Lasts book. Cant people be sincere and caring without all that? I read it Daily and Journal too. We have a problem with people who now want to pile on the growing number of women who are coming forward with similar stories. All of the disciples failed Jesus. You had a bad leader, and a bunch of elders who were unwilling to accept that, and call him on it. LOL I sure never did on the few creepy weirdo hugs I was subjected to! How does one explain it? They often wonder, Did that really just happen? What really just happened? Am I interpreting that correctly? How should I interpret it? etc., etc.. Well, it is a known fact that Hybels is a married man. A brave woman called each person out, which led to subsequent allegations, Differences In the end the price has already been paid by Jesus and its Only By Grace that we enter.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv72Q23lIp0. Wherever my story takes me, however dark and difficult the theme, there is always some hope and redemption, not because readers like happy endings, but because I am an optimist at heart. This kind of relationship seems natural to women, but sometimes men have a hard time figuring it out. : What Hubris that is. Even then, she was ashamed about what happened to her, as if it was her fault. So sad. If he is sincere about his reasons for retiring early, make a very public statement for people to knock it off and let him go away quietly. Why? Sit under Jesus Christs leadership in the future. Dont get me started on how mega churches operate. Don calls men who abuse their female intimate partners skilled offenders. But long ago, I realized that these situations are not made up of clear white/black hats. He then shared unfiltered thoughts about me, describing in great detail specific parts of my body he liked, and said he thought I was effusive, sexy and had great candor, mentioned what a promising leader I was, and he said. Megachurch pastors have big institutions to feed as well: huge entities that gobble millions a year, maybe hundreds of millions. Married: Spouse: Lynne Hybels (m. 1974) Son/Daughter: Yes (Shauna Niequist and Todd Hybels) Earning: $95,000 . is lynne hybels still married to bill. I go even further with it, Jack. Is it the lack of family having your back? Marquet changed the Leader-Follower traditional naval paradigm to Leader-Allocate Control, resulting in success for all. Excuse me? I have been reading sex abuse stories for 9 years. In Christian theology, the Devil prefers deception and manipulation and the Long Con, NOT the Direct Frontal Attack you hear these days from Spiritual and Cultural Warriors. Serving whom? Churches are in the state they are in because they refuse to seek truth and call the words of victims gossip. I dont think Jesus sees things the same way they do. The Spirit works, sometimes over decades, with friends and acquaintances. I could go on and one, but my point is that serial abusers are very, very clever. Wonder who taught Billy to dress like a leader. The woman alleging an affair with Bill said that she was suicidal, both to Leanne and to Bill. Sidenote: My (female) cousin took it personally one time when we side hugged her instead of a full hug! To TWW regulars: I am becoming concerned that there will be a full court press by some people. Yes, there is a hug/cuddle culture that has science backing it. Bill also admitted that the woman alleging an affair had spent many nights at the Hybels home when Lynne was out of town. @ truthseeker00: Still, i know these women and they are godly and credible. Peter Led about 3000 to Christ on the day of Pentacost. Theres theory, and then practise. Who would I tell? With the way some are acting, they mimic Hybels anger and vindictiveness rather than Christ. (Hoping they picked the right winning faction). Publishers are pulling back for a reason. (3) A fifteen-minute phone conversation, also on April 6th, with the woman who made the confession, who had previously emailed Leanne three times that if her story went public she would deny it. To TWW regulars: I am becoming concerned that there will be a full court press by some people. . Just went through the same unity emphasis, as if pointing out items needing accountability, oversight and review constituted disunity or unwarranted lack of confidence in church leadership. She claims Bill Hybels brought up the incident in Hawaii about the ambien. No one. Thats a laugh. What do you think that Rabbi from Tarsus meant when he wrote For Satan himself can transform himself to appear as an Angel of Light? Wailing Wall-Satanic Ritual? As I said before, I think people who disbelieve the testimony of victims are the least credible people in these situations.. When its someone you respect and trust, you dont expect aberrant behavior and you are surprised by it. Perhaps after a time. What would you have suggested she tell her husband? if one has enough of those there seems to be a scale to weigh behaviors against. Call only those whose backgrounds really do show *above reproach* character. . Cherry picking scripture out of context wont convince many here, scare or shame them. Many folks seem to focus on the shock horror when yet another wicked man is exposed. The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher. : Brad Brucker: Got any other people of substance who would vouch for you? psychology today says that When we hug or kiss a loved one, oxytocin levels increase; hence, oxytocin is often called the love hormone.. It is the private hotel rooms that can be dangerous. So, Ive also read it in the Original Languages. He could claim that she was making up her story. It may not be what everyone wants, even if it is innocent. It is in the section entitled, An inquiry begins, about halfway down the page. Or been involved with the thought reform in a social justice Warrior Church. @ Lydia. So were other women who were dealing with this privately. And us adults have to learn not to be so easily snookered by evil experts masquerading as wonderful people and pass red flags along to children. Sometimes theyre letting you know who theyve really been followingand who they havent been. That statement should never have been sent out and hasnt been corrected to this day! Instead of turning the other cheek or choosing kindness in the midst of your disappointment, I see anger and a willingness to hurt other people. And, are most people blowing this thing up bigger than it is. That is more unusual these days. AFAIK they havent yet made any corrections or denials. He was talking about how successful Sociopaths and Swindlers and Abusers are masters of Camouflage (and Misdirection)! Then the man of God acts as if nothing happened.. Give me the bellicose jerks any time. But then, Im just The Crazy Kid, and hes always been the Sweet Little Angel. Another case of a desperate preacher caught with his hand in the cookie jar looking for an excuse and sympathy from gullible followers. Our job is to sow seeds. For you cross land and sea to make a single convert, only to turn him into twice the Child of Hell as yourselves! Very often, as you point out, in times of crisis, people respond in ways that reveal. Yet, the faith grew in the midst of these awful circumstances. That isnt good for anyone. Why wait until now?? . Two publishers suspend publication of books by megachurch pastor Hybels in wake of misconduct allegations Tyndale House Publishers InterVarsity Press (Chicago Tribune). I cannot find the comment so let me Some person, purportedly a woman, is blaming the women for going to Hybels hotel room. When one person has an experience like this with a trusted friend and spiritual leader, they typically dont know how to make sense of it. You would think that wannabe preacher boys would be warned off of that in seminary. And if it gets really bad the staunch hybels factions may end up being ousted. I do believe that he may have gone through a time of repentance and contrition, as much as he may understand that he needs to, and has come to the other side of it and that is the reason that he may not seem as repentant as they expect. Mary, I am going to assume that you have not been well taught on the subject of judgement. This is VERY common. She, too, encountered the Ambien excuse. Conferences in exotic locales, entitlement, accolades, a volunteer workforce that actually gives you 10% of their earnings. Then more examples came out. Many of them rented out old Walmart stores and added satellite campuses with downlinks. Look at the Stowell family leaving Harvest Bible Chapel as an example of a family who quietly left with dark secrets about a megachurch. I dont think he deserved that. Did we demand transparency? @ Lydia: Not just anyone can do it well. The mistake people make is thinking everything can go back to normal. Why wait until now?? Give, and it will be given to you. Is that structure really the best way to know Christ? Bill Hybels touched me, hugged me invited me to his room I left then went to my hotel room and cried.. She bears serious emotional scars to this day, several decades later. Harvey was condemned by Hollywood while Bill received the proverbial Standing O, I had to read this twice. But, the cat is out the bag. I knew all this stuff from my secular org development career but did not transfer it to the church setting right way. But thats over the course of 42 years of ministry! Trust me, Willow Creek has nothing to do with whether I follow Jesus or not. May God raise up more people like Josiah who tore down the high places and every high thing that exalted itself against the knowledge of God until Jesus becomes the only thing worshipped in the church. In 2018, sexual misconduct allegations had been alleged against Bill Hybels. But, I seriously doubt your using scripture as a club will shame, convince or condemn many here. There are evil people who look like good people. And some people here are calling your guru to account for apparently not being obedient at all, for being a fraud, a hypocrite. Email a description of the experience to yourself right away while details are fresh. I do not know the answer to this question but red flags are waving up, down and all around this situation. If there is anything we can do to be of further support, do not hesitate to let us know! No idea the the Bible says, Do the work of an evangelist! The strength and impact of Nancy Beachs and Vonda Dyers words remain, thankfully. Ive told her about the many intelligent comments here! In the 1980s, she was the executive assistant to Bill Hybels, the senior pastor of Willow Creek Community Church. No longer have their careers as a result of their actions All about leadership, leadership, leadership. If I felt uncomfortable I removed myself from the situation and spoke up. I am an infrequent commenter here, but have been following the WW for years. This is just how we do; I dont know. The Devil is destroying yet another church. There were people in the main office just outside the tutoring office where I worked with students. Catherine-you are in permanent moderation. I mean, it makes for good gossip too. Home; NEWS; Actress; . Thats what she thinks is comparable? He was once featured in a Christian magazine. The FAQ document she links, however, entitled Willow Creek Response to Local Media, has mysteriously transformed itself into a 404 NOT FOUND message. They wouldnt have been good enough speakers. Its the whole structure of the godly pastor on stage week after week. But one thing I know, we have a choice in our behaviors. I dont understand the focus by this and other commenters on when did she tell her husband. It is when people naively do not realize that everyone has an agenda, not to be cynical, that they fail to ask important questions and perform essential (to them!) It is the Spirits job to convict and change.. And people are actually saying Hybels being a champion of women was under false pretenses, for Sex? We have some good news to give to the world. Near the end of this article, Dee posted this question for Willow Creek Church: Is it possible that Bill Hybels encouraged the leadership of women in order to increase his own access to women who admired him within the confines of church business, giving him plausible deniability? Shauna (Hybels) met her husband at Willow Creek before they went to Mars Hill and joined Rob Bells staff. This is starting to sound like Pill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein. Its about truth, loving others, the actual fruits of the Spirit, obedience to the Lord. I hug relatives and near relatives depending on the situation-like somebody is dead. Rob Bells questioning of Hell has earned him a spot on the heresy list. This was a joke which proved how few people at WCC understand sexual harassment. @ jackie: Celebrity is credibility in that world. He lied when he told the Monday night Family Meeting that the unhappy marriage comment in the Tribune was just the result of a check-in.. This has not only damaged women but also affected men, like my husband, who looked up to Bill Hybels as a positive role model. William Edward (Bill) LaBarre of Marietta passed away at his home at 1:52 AM Saturday, February 25, 2023 surrounded by his family. The faith survived the persecutions.It will survive Bill Hybels indiscretions. People handle things. Tonight we wept in sadness for all the people closely associated with this story, yes, even for Bill and Lynn and for their adult children. BTW, one of the drawbacks with the current format is we dont even see recent comments from older threads. In the fallout of Hybels's departure over sexual misconduct allegations, the esteemed megachurch lost other top leaders: The church's elders, as well as Steve Carter and Heather Larson, who were. He got GAWD on his side My former abusive, cultish and abuser-friendly church was positively obsessed with unity. The pastor preached on it continually. I hope they will be held accountable and step down. Ok. No. Some will walk away all together from their faith journey.. Because it was not entirely clear what happened. And Long Prayers will be said for justification. How many times do you think it needs to be posted? Just wonderin, Similarities If this very not such a serious matter, their would be some humor in this. I do believe that there exist genuine sexual perverts, but we err when we naively believe that all who abuse particularly those in positions of power and authority who systematically abuse are merely acting out sexual impulses. That should be shut down with extreme prejudicepun definitely intended. I bet she had help. A high five or handshake can do the same. Thank you for that comment, Lydia. Ok, So Nancy Ortberg was fondled, hugged, touched. Very doubtful that this model arose magically, unprompted out of Bill Hybels head, anymore than Billy Graham rose to international prominence unaided. From all angles. April 13, 2018. Hee hee. I never saw a cross hanging in Willow nor heard a pastor speak out against gay marriage, women pastors or the slaughter of the Palestinians, etc . Ask yourself If we are to judge on actions that are listed as sin or are considered crimes, then what does this really mean. Yep. One caught my eye: Courageous Leadership. What you are saying is that public perception of sin causes people to walk away from the faith? Whats wrong with you women? So your mind overrides your gut. Barton co-authored with John Ortberg Ordinary Day With Jesus, which clearly instructs readers in mystical prayer practices. This writing clearly shows John Ortbergs sympathies to this New Age spirituality. The premise of con- templative spirituality is pantheistic (God is all) and panentheistic (God is in all). @ Davis and Natasha: 3434 pant, right? Even our laws in the US lead to punishment o f one chooses to disobey them . But friends I hug more frequently, family, etc. August 7, 2018. I dont fault them for that, but its what happens. Thanks for the info. Why not go public 4 years ago?? So many Christians mix this whole thing up. Wow!!! And Charisma House/new Mark Driscoll book . No wonder you have no qualms about slamming the Church, the bride of Christ. Because his REAL Personal LORD and Savior (PASTOR Hybels) is getting Blasphemed. Thats why it cant be measured in terms of numbers, and in the case of Graham and Hybels are likely massively inflated anyway, and again, they dont get the numbers credit in any event, because its not that simple, its an enormously complex process that leads anyone to this or that place where they hear a message that the Holy Spirit uses to tip them over the fence. I am going to add one further post that will be two pictures and then I will allow all these posts to stay for comment. One more narcissistic, egotistical, Out of control, self-serving man in a position of trust has been stopped in his tracts. she either did or didnt inform her husband immediately 1. Thanks, Julie! I get it bothers you. This morning, Nancy Ortberg posted Flawed Process, Wounded Women on her website. Remember all those times we hung out together and nothing happened? Together, they have two children, a son by the name of Todd Hybels and a daughter Shauna Niequist. Strange things are happening on Twitter on this case. The pastor didnt understand that this was not about sex but about control and power. People will walk away from Jesus Christ because Billy Hybels is not who they thought he was? Soon as your back was turned, the mask flipped off like a light switch and there was only the contempt of the Predator gloating over the stupidity of his Prey. I only hugged a co-worker once. There is ignorance going on but you may be pointing in the wrong direction. I fund it demeaning to victims and I dont do demeaning here. Exit music: Many self/proclaimed Christians dont. ", © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 - The Wartburg Watch. It often makes for very lively and interesting discussions. If/when he does come forward to confess and repent of past bad behavior, he and Willow Creek elders will no longer be viewed as honest and credible among the remaining members. I cant deny I have been blessed by WC and the GLS. They can protect the vulnerable better if they wise up. Is faith journey a synonym for sanctification? But If you make a big deal about nothing, you are the problem. - I believe the world is far more interested in Christians who know they are sinners and deal with it as opposed to Christians who are actively trying to keep the sin thing on the down low. I now see how this happened for years, and I never saw it. Too much time, money and hero worship. And it would appear that apparently absolutely no one found the need/necessity of bringing poor pastoral attitude, grave scriptural issues, his response, and certain questionable pastoral behavior before the church as directed by scripture. not for this long. It means wearing Gods name like a banner (CHRIST-ian Leader) and then doing terribly ungodly things that represent Him poorly. 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